Mac mini GETS!

Published on April 9th, 2010.

So the computer I’ve been talking about is this, a Mac mini. I had been thinking about what to get for quite some time as my two-year old MacBook is starting to get on my nerves. Mainly because the fans go all hurricane as soon as you start watching a YouTube video in HD. It was a bit on the slow side, but served and will continue to serve me well for portable use.

So I just went down to the nearest Apple premium reseller the day after I decided to get one, and 20 minutes later I was unpacking my new baby. The fact that they don’t use plastic bags made me happy^^

The mini I got is the 2.53GHz version with 4GB RAM and whatnot. I’ve heard rumors about updates coming soon-ish (maybe this summer?) but I decided to go for it as I have no need for those rumored updates (like HDMI). And the speed bump is supposedly going to be a small one.

The box is nice as always, easy to open and well designed. The top part that says “Designed by Apple in California” contains the Snow Leopard CDs, manuals and probably some Apple stickers (I didn’t open it up).

This was my first time unboxing a mini, so I was pretty excited about it^^ Just remove the top part and there’s your new mini!

A shot of the back of the mini. 5 USB ports was also one of my main reasons for getting it, just 2 on the MacBook doesn’t cut it. I’ve had a USB hub of course, but that’s not really a good solution when you have to plug in USB powered hard drives and other things that should be using one port by itself.

This is all that’s in the box, no “lull lull” as we call it in Swedish, just the parts you need to get going and no mess. It ships with a Mini-DVI to DVI adapter (the mini has both a Mini-DVI port and a Mini DisplayPort). So now I have two of those, which is good since I need to take one with me when I’m on the go with my MacBook :)

Plugged in and ready to go in no time! I’m very pleased with the result, I have more space on my desk, it’s super silent and performs really well. It’s nice to have some more hard drive space too, 320 GB internal vs 80 GB internal in my MacBook makes a huge difference, even though I mostly store my files on the external drive. Haven’t really decided how to organize things yet though, with backups and everything, but I’ll think of something.

Oh and for the record, I’ve named it HARUMI (春美, beautiful spring). The MacBook is MASAMI, the iPhone is ERI, the external hdd seen above is MARIMO and my second external is EMI. Too geeky for ya? :P

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  • ShiningStar

    You should have called the Mini Koharu, ask it’s small but can perform miracles that are hidden on first glace. 320Gig’s is OK, my MBP has 500GB lull lull! I’m glad your happier now. I’we heard it’s possible to buy USB hubs that have a power adapter to make it stronger, and basically just transfer data instead of all the power for the devices.

    • http://www.yonasu.com yonasu

      Well, it’s up to each and everyone to decide how much hdd space is OK, personally I don’t save a lot of crap anymore so I really don’t need more than that^^ And yes, there are hubs with power supply, but you’re still connected to one port, which is not a good solution for hard drives that need the full transfer speed. And I have enough cables already, I hate them!

  • ShiningStar

    You should have called the Mini Koharu, ask it’s small but can perform miracles that are hidden on first glace. 320Gig’s is OK, my MBP has 500GB lull lull! I’m glad your happier now. I’we heard it’s possible to buy USB hubs that have a power adapter to make it stronger, and basically just transfer data instead of all the power for the devices.

    • http://www.yonasu.com yonasu

      Well, it’s up to each and everyone to decide how much hdd space is OK, personally I don’t save a lot of crap anymore so I really don’t need more than that^^ And yes, there are hubs with power supply, but you’re still connected to one port, which is not a good solution for hard drives that need the full transfer speed. And I have enough cables already, I hate them!

  • http://twitter.com/ephemeross tora

    “Oh and for the record, I’ve named it HARUMI (春美, beautiful spring). The MacBook is MASAMI, the iPhone is ERI, the external hdd seen above is MARIMO and my second external is EMI. Too geeky for ya? :P”

    Nerddddd xD !
    Just kidding :D I think most people name stuff, a lot of people just don’t like to admit it haha.

    I’ve been wondering what to get for university since my current PC is a bit of a hassle to take and I want something more manageable. I’m pretty sure I’ll get a MacBook but after reading this post I think a MacMini would also be nice, haha.

    • http://www.yonasu.com yonasu

      Haha yeah you’re probably right :P You should get a MacBook if you intend to use it for school, the current line of MacBooks are a lot better than mine ;)

  • http://twitter.com/ephemeross tora

    “Oh and for the record, I’ve named it HARUMI (春美, beautiful spring). The MacBook is MASAMI, the iPhone is ERI, the external hdd seen above is MARIMO and my second external is EMI. Too geeky for ya? :P”

    Nerddddd xD !
    Just kidding :D I think most people name stuff, a lot of people just don’t like to admit it haha.

    I’ve been wondering what to get for university since my current PC is a bit of a hassle to take and I want something more manageable. I’m pretty sure I’ll get a MacBook but after reading this post I think a MacMini would also be nice, haha.

    • http://www.yonasu.com yonasu

      Haha yeah you’re probably right :P You should get a MacBook if you intend to use it for school, the current line of MacBooks are a lot better than mine ;)

  • http://austrianotaku.com hikky

    No offence but I’m really amazed how much money Apple users are willing to spend for cheap hardware. The Mini is great for low power computing though if you have too much Euros lying around.
    But just for the lulz I put this small chart together:
    http://austrianotaku.com/wp-content/2010/04/MacMinivsDIYPC.jpg

    Intel Core i5-750 Quadcore, H55 ITX mainboard with 10(!) USB ports, Wifi-n, e-Sata and what not, Geforce GT240 passive, 4GGB DDR3-1333, 500GB HDD, a slightly bigger ITX case and waaaaaaaaaaaaayyyyyy more power than the Mini for less money.

    • http://www.yonasu.com yonasu

      Where did you find Win 7 Ultimate for 42 euros? I can’t find it for less than 200 euros here, for the OEM version. And that Lian Li case is big… And is it silent? Silent as in not hearing it. And who wants to run Win 7 anyways, I sure don’t.

    • http://austrianotaku.com hikky

      Ah lol, sry. 142€
      http://austrianotaku.com/wp-content/2010/04/MacMinivsDIY-PC.jpg
      Ok 750 vs. 810€ BUT with a Quadcore and far better components!
      I expect it to be nearly silent yes. You could build a system like the Mini completely silent of course and for much less.
      Who would like to use Leopard SP9 (=Snow Leopard)? I sure don’t.

    • http://www.yonasu.com yonasu

      Then give me a system like that, that runs Leopard, I don’t want a system as the one you’ve shown me. Doesn’t matter how much specs you show me, give something of the size of a mini that is better and runs Leopard…

    • http://austrianotaku.com hikky

      Hm, the problem is that:
      a) Such really small cases with good cooling are rare (but at least hard drives don’t have 60°C all the time in those)
      b) The Mini uses old Socket-775 CPUs which aren’t available any longer (or just for crazy prices unless you are a OEM and buy 1000+ CPUs at once.)

      You could get a net-top if you don’t care about CPU power anyway for 200€ or so but I wouldn’t recommend it.

  • http://austrianotaku.com hikky

    No offence but I’m really amazed how much money Apple users are willing to spend for cheap hardware. The Mini is great for low power computing though if you have too much Euros lying around.
    But just for the lulz I put this small chart together:
    http://austrianotaku.com/wp-content/2010/04/MacMinivsDIYPC.jpg

    Intel Core i5-750 Quadcore, H55 ITX mainboard with 10(!) USB ports, Wifi-n, e-Sata and what not, Geforce GT240 passive, 4GGB DDR3-1333, 500GB HDD, a slightly bigger ITX case and waaaaaaaaaaaaayyyyyy more power than the Mini for less money.

    • http://www.yonasu.com yonasu

      Where did you find Win 7 Ultimate for 42 euros? I can’t find it for less than 200 euros here, for the OEM version. And that Lian Li case is big… And is it silent? Silent as in not hearing it. And who wants to run Win 7 anyways, I sure don’t.

    • http://austrianotaku.com hikky

      Ah lol, sry. 142€
      http://austrianotaku.com/wp-content/2010/04/MacMinivsDIY-PC.jpg
      Ok 750 vs. 810€ BUT with a Quadcore and far better components!
      I expect it to be nearly silent yes. You could build a system like the Mini completely silent of course and for much less.
      Who would like to use Leopard SP9 (=Snow Leopard)? I sure don’t.

    • http://www.yonasu.com yonasu

      Then give me a system like that, that runs Leopard, I don’t want a system as the one you’ve shown me. Doesn’t matter how much specs you show me, give something of the size of a mini that is better and runs Leopard…

    • http://austrianotaku.com hikky

      Hm, the problem is that:
      a) Such really small cases with good cooling are rare (but at least hard drives don’t have 60°C all the time in those)
      b) The Mini uses old Socket-775 CPUs which aren’t available any longer (or just for crazy prices unless you are a OEM and buy 1000+ CPUs at once.)

      You could get a net-top if you don’t care about CPU power anyway for 200€ or so but I wouldn’t recommend it.

  • http://chokochoko.wordpress.com/ squire Starsquid

    I have a Mac mini!!! Though mine is ancient and hopefully I can upgrade to a macbook pro soon. The good thing about Mac mini is that you can take it with you (not in a laptop kinda way but you know what I mean).

    @Hikky
    I wouldnt want to use a PC if it cost a dollar. Im so done with PC. I always used PC before but there’s ALWAYS something that doesnt work (no matter how many upgrades, installations, maintainance whatever). It just DONT WORK. (and believe me, I tried to make it work before I threw it out the window) And it dont matter how fast your computer is if you get that bluescreen every other minute. :)

    • http://austrianotaku.com hikky

      Bluscreen? The thing that’s grey on your Mac? Last got one in late 2006 on XP.
      If you are referring to a PC like mentioned in the Mac ads (W2k/XP/300€ machine from 2002) I can understand you. If you are referring to a modern, Windows 7 running PC, I can’t.

    • http://www.yonasu.com yonasu

      True that, I don’t think I’ll ever take my mini with me anywhere though, except for when I move that is…

      I’ve never seen a greyscreen, but I’m sure it exists^^ But yeah, I haven’t had a bluescreen in years either. That’s not really why I don’t like Windows at the moment anyways :P

  • http://chokochoko.wordpress.com/ squire Starsquid

    I have a Mac mini!!! Though mine is ancient and hopefully I can upgrade to a macbook pro soon. The good thing about Mac mini is that you can take it with you (not in a laptop kinda way but you know what I mean).

    @Hikky
    I wouldnt want to use a PC if it cost a dollar. Im so done with PC. I always used PC before but there’s ALWAYS something that doesnt work (no matter how many upgrades, installations, maintainance whatever). It just DONT WORK. (and believe me, I tried to make it work before I threw it out the window) And it dont matter how fast your computer is if you get that bluescreen every other minute. :)

    • http://austrianotaku.com hikky

      Bluscreen? The thing that’s grey on your Mac? Last got one in late 2006 on XP.
      If you are referring to a PC like mentioned in the Mac ads (W2k/XP/300€ machine from 2002) I can understand you. If you are referring to a modern, Windows 7 running PC, I can’t.

    • http://www.yonasu.com yonasu

      True that, I don’t think I’ll ever take my mini with me anywhere though, except for when I move that is…

      I’ve never seen a greyscreen, but I’m sure it exists^^ But yeah, I haven’t had a bluescreen in years either. That’s not really why I don’t like Windows at the moment anyways :P

  • http://www.jamaipanese.com Jamaipanese

    i must admit, getting a mac mini is kinda tempting…

    • http://www.yonasu.com yonasu

      You should probably save for Japan though xD

  • http://www.jamaipanese.com Jamaipanese

    i must admit, getting a mac mini is kinda tempting…

    • http://www.yonasu.com yonasu

      You should probably save for Japan though xD

  • ShiningStar

    I see we got a windows fanboy here, believe it or not some people are willing to pay more JUST to get rid for Microsoft for good, and for not having to use it. That alone compensates for the higher price. It’s not about best value it about not having to use that horrible OS.

    • http://www.yonasu.com yonasu

      Don’t confuse Microsoft with Windows, Microsoft makes lots of other great products.

      And best value is really an opinion, and that is in fact what it is about, but the Macs are currently of a much higher value TO ME even though they are more expensive. hikky likes Windows and is a hardware geek, so a Mac doesn’t really make sense to him^^

    • http://austrianotaku.com hikky

      Believe it or no: Microsoft isn’t the Antichrist. In fact: Apple is far more evil than Microsoft has ever dreamed to be. And as yonasu said: Microsoft isn’t just Windows. They have a bunch of different stuff besides that going on too.

      Snow Leopard vs. Win7 doesn’t make much difference for the regular user. Without Windows Mac OS wouldn’t be so feature rich and vice versa. What exactly is so horrible about Win 7 anyway?
      And yes I like to just pop in some new graphics card, CPU and what not. And how should I play games on the Mac?

  • ShiningStar

    I see we got a windows fanboy here, believe it or not some people are willing to pay more JUST to get rid for Microsoft for good, and for not having to use it. That alone compensates for the higher price. It’s not about best value it about not having to use that horrible OS.

    • http://www.yonasu.com yonasu

      Don’t confuse Microsoft with Windows, Microsoft makes lots of other great products.

      And best value is really an opinion, and that is in fact what it is about, but the Macs are currently of a much higher value TO ME even though they are more expensive. hikky likes Windows and is a hardware geek, so a Mac doesn’t really make sense to him^^

    • http://austrianotaku.com hikky

      Believe it or no: Microsoft isn’t the Antichrist. In fact: Apple is far more evil than Microsoft has ever dreamed to be. And as yonasu said: Microsoft isn’t just Windows. They have a bunch of different stuff besides that going on too.

      Snow Leopard vs. Win7 doesn’t make much difference for the regular user. Without Windows Mac OS wouldn’t be so feature rich and vice versa. What exactly is so horrible about Win 7 anyway?
      And yes I like to just pop in some new graphics card, CPU and what not. And how should I play games on the Mac?

  • nonkeat

    Good choice! I hope you’ll be happy with it for a long time. :)

    • http://www.yonasu.com yonasu

      I probably will be :) I’ve been really happy with my MacBook for the past 2 years, and I still love it, so will most likely feel the same about the mini.

  • nonkeat

    Good choice! I hope you’ll be happy with it for a long time. :)

    • http://www.yonasu.com yonasu

      I probably will be :) I’ve been really happy with my MacBook for the past 2 years, and I still love it, so will most likely feel the same about the mini.

  • ShiningStar

    I have no doubt in Yonasu’s choice, he got a mac because they are great, if you disagree your wrong. ^_^ Most people who can’t afford this fine piece of hardware bitch about it, or cant understand why people chose them, nothing new same old story.

    • http://austrianotaku.com hikky

      No, I’m not wrong nor is anyone whose computing needs are fulfilled with only that much power. I’m just saying that it’s weird to pay that much to get a quite low powered system IMO. BTW: This “fine piece of hardware” is made from standard laptop parts, nothing magical about it.
      Can’t afford them, eh? Yah, I’m so poor, that’s why I just ordered parts for a new rig last week. ^_^

  • ShiningStar

    I have no doubt in Yonasu’s choice, he got a mac because they are great, if you disagree your wrong. ^_^ Most people who can’t afford this fine piece of hardware bitch about it, or cant understand why people chose them, nothing new same old story.

    • http://austrianotaku.com hikky

      No, I’m not wrong nor is anyone whose computing needs are fulfilled with only that much power. I’m just saying that it’s weird to pay that much to get a quite low powered system IMO. BTW: This “fine piece of hardware” is made from standard laptop parts, nothing magical about it.
      Can’t afford them, eh? Yah, I’m so poor, that’s why I just ordered parts for a new rig last week. ^_^

  • http://chokochoko.wordpress.com/ Squire Starsquid

    Well I was forced by Windows to use Mac, da~~~~~~mn you PC! What is it with PC, you have to buy a new one every year or something. If not, change all the stuff inside (equals new PC). I mean, I would love to use a PC with Windows, IF THE DARN THING WORKS.

    I’d rather pay for a “low powered system” than a PC thats gets *beep*-up every other day. Thats just a fact. (it is)

    And Hikky, stop playing with computer parts and play with chicks :P

    • http://austrianotaku.com hikky

      Hm, I’m using this Windows 7 install since last August and still got no frak-up so far, so your argument doesn’t work for me. My PC is 2 1/2 years old btw, and if I wouldn’t wan’t enough performance for the latest games I wouldn’t even have to upgrade it now. But how should I explain what gaming is to Mac users?
      Playing with girls? Ährm.. no, their OS is worse than OS X. ^_^

  • http://chokochoko.wordpress.com/ Squire Starsquid

    Well I was forced by Windows to use Mac, da~~~~~~mn you PC! What is it with PC, you have to buy a new one every year or something. If not, change all the stuff inside (equals new PC). I mean, I would love to use a PC with Windows, IF THE DARN THING WORKS.

    I’d rather pay for a “low powered system” than a PC thats gets *beep*-up every other day. Thats just a fact. (it is)

    And Hikky, stop playing with computer parts and play with chicks :P

    • http://austrianotaku.com hikky

      Hm, I’m using this Windows 7 install since last August and still got no frak-up so far, so your argument doesn’t work for me. My PC is 2 1/2 years old btw, and if I wouldn’t wan’t enough performance for the latest games I wouldn’t even have to upgrade it now. But how should I explain what gaming is to Mac users?
      Playing with girls? Ährm.. no, their OS is worse than OS X. ^_^

  • http://chokochoko.wordpress.com/ squire Starsquid

    Well seeing you love parts n stuff, I bet all your parts in your PC are changed compared to the ones 2 1/2 year ago (actually Im sure), so that equals a new PC. And I don’t do gaming on PC or Mac, I’d switch on PS3. See that’s the difference, PC is for watching movies, gaming, changing parts and formatting. Mac is for working. :)

    • http://chokochoko.wordpress.com/ Squire Starsquid

      And btw, I’m using my OS install since I bought my Mac, which was on October 5th, 2005. Never had to install/format it again. Beat that PC, any PC (o’.'o)/

    • http://austrianotaku.com hikky

      I changed the graphics card and added hard drives yeah, but the system itself is unchanged (until tomorrow when all parts for the new rig will arrive that is).
      Mac is for working… interesting. But why are companies using Windows PCs then? Try running a common CAD software on OS X for example.. oh wait they are only Windows based version available.
      PS3? Hm, nope sorry I like my games to look as good as possible. xD
      Since 2005? Using a upgraded Tiger install with Snow Leopard? That’s actually quite good but as far as I know this can cause some problems too (even on the mighty Mac) compared to a clean install, right?

    • http://www.yonasu.com yonasu

      PCs are strictly for gaming in my opinion. Why are so many companies using PCs? Well, I can find a few reasons there, but the main reason would be money. The PCs seem to be cheaper at first glance, so they go with that. Why I say first glance is because in the end you’ll end up at the same total price or worse as if you would’ve bought Macs, because of all the money going to support and repairs for PCs. Companies, and especially schools, have started to realize this (at least here in Sweden) which is why you see many switching to Mac for work here (my father’s school is just one of them). As for common apps not being available, that goes both ways, and there are always alternatives.

      As for upgrading instead of making a clean install, I don’t see why that would cause problems, worked fine for me (Leopard to Snow Leopard though).

  • http://chokochoko.wordpress.com/ squire Starsquid

    Well seeing you love parts n stuff, I bet all your parts in your PC are changed compared to the ones 2 1/2 year ago (actually Im sure), so that equals a new PC. And I don’t do gaming on PC or Mac, I’d switch on PS3. See that’s the difference, PC is for watching movies, gaming, changing parts and formatting. Mac is for working. :)

    • http://chokochoko.wordpress.com/ Squire Starsquid

      And btw, I’m using my OS install since I bought my Mac, which was on October 5th, 2005. Never had to install/format it again. Beat that PC, any PC \(o’.'o)/

    • http://austrianotaku.com hikky

      I changed the graphics card and added hard drives yeah, but the system itself is unchanged (until tomorrow when all parts for the new rig will arrive that is).
      Mac is for working… interesting. But why are companies using Windows PCs then? Try running a common CAD software on OS X for example.. oh wait they are only Windows based version available.
      PS3? Hm, nope sorry I like my games to look as good as possible. xD
      Since 2005? Using a upgraded Tiger install with Snow Leopard? That’s actually quite good but as far as I know this can cause some problems too (even on the mighty Mac) compared to a clean install, right?

    • http://www.yonasu.com yonasu

      PCs are strictly for gaming in my opinion. Why are so many companies using PCs? Well, I can find a few reasons there, but the main reason would be money. The PCs seem to be cheaper at first glance, so they go with that. Why I say first glance is because in the end you’ll end up at the same total price or worse as if you would’ve bought Macs, because of all the money going to support and repairs for PCs. Companies, and especially schools, have started to realize this (at least here in Sweden) which is why you see many switching to Mac for work here (my father’s school is just one of them). As for common apps not being available, that goes both ways, and there are always alternatives.

      As for upgrading instead of making a clean install, I don’t see why that would cause problems, worked fine for me (Leopard to Snow Leopard though).

  • http://twitter.com/ephemeross tora

    I use my PC for gaming etc, but I want to get a MacBook for my Multimedia Computing course since they’re a lot more reliable and better for working on in terms of animation, video etc.

    Mac’s are slowly becoming more open to gaming and you can even install Windows on them.. so really you’re not exactly losing out on anything (^~^)

    • http://www.yonasu.com yonasu

      Sounds like a good idea :) Macs are still too expensive when you when you need the high-end ones, so I’d stick with PCs for gaming^^ (I do all my gaming on my XBOX 360 though).

  • http://twitter.com/ephemeross tora

    I use my PC for gaming etc, but I want to get a MacBook for my Multimedia Computing course since they’re a lot more reliable and better for working on in terms of animation, video etc.

    Mac’s are slowly becoming more open to gaming and you can even install Windows on them.. so really you’re not exactly losing out on anything (^~^)

    • http://www.yonasu.com yonasu

      Sounds like a good idea :) Macs are still too expensive when you when you need the high-end ones, so I’d stick with PCs for gaming^^ (I do all my gaming on my XBOX 360 though).

  • http://chokochoko.wordpress.com/ Squire Starsquid

    So thats a new PC then. Glad we got that straight.
    Why companies are using PC? So they can play Solitaire during their coffee break.
    And PC games? Like The Sims or Counterstrike-ishness? Puliez, gimme something new.
    And who said I was using Tiger install with Snow Leopard, dunno where you got that from, still using Tiger here. Anyways, are you sure you’re getting enough fresh air? You outta go out sometimes.

    • http://chokochoko.wordpress.com/ squire Starsquid

      And fyi, you, already gave away why PC is for gaming:

      “And yes I like to just pop in some new graphics card, CPU and what not. And how should I play games on the Mac?”

      “…and if I wouldn’t wan’t enough performance for the latest games I wouldn’t even have to upgrade it now”

      “Hm, nope sorry I like my games to look as good as possible”

      There you go, no need to thank me.
      Nothing wrong with gaming on your lil’ PC though, I’m just sayin’.

  • http://chokochoko.wordpress.com/ Squire Starsquid

    So thats a new PC then. Glad we got that straight.
    Why companies are using PC? So they can play Solitaire during their coffee break.
    And PC games? Like The Sims or Counterstrike-ishness? Puliez, gimme something new.
    And who said I was using Tiger install with Snow Leopard, dunno where you got that from, still using Tiger here. Anyways, are you sure you’re getting enough fresh air? You outta go out sometimes.

    • http://chokochoko.wordpress.com/ squire Starsquid

      And fyi, you, already gave away why PC is for gaming:

      “And yes I like to just pop in some new graphics card, CPU and what not. And how should I play games on the Mac?”

      “…and if I wouldn’t wan’t enough performance for the latest games I wouldn’t even have to upgrade it now”

      “Hm, nope sorry I like my games to look as good as possible”

      There you go, no need to thank me.
      Nothing wrong with gaming on your lil’ PC though, I’m just sayin’.

  • http://chokochoko.wordpress.com/ Squire Starsquid

    “…because in the end you’ll end up at the same total price or worse as if you would’ve bought Macs, because of all the money going to support and【repairs for PCs】”

    “…but I want to get a【MacBook】for my Multimedia Computing course since they’re a【lot more reliable】and better for working on in terms of animation, video etc”

    THANK YOU

  • http://chokochoko.wordpress.com/ Squire Starsquid

    “…because in the end you’ll end up at the same total price or worse as if you would’ve bought Macs, because of all the money going to support and【repairs for PCs】”

    “…but I want to get a【MacBook】for my Multimedia Computing course since they’re a【lot more reliable】and better for working on in terms of animation, video etc”

    THANK YOU

  • http://austrianotaku.com hikky

    @yonasu: Depends on what you need the workstation for. To stick with CAD workstation: A Workstation graphics card alone costs around 2000-3000€, so I wouldn’t call that cheap. The part about maintenance might be true, yes. For school such a Mini or a iMac might make sense. A Mac is the system I would buy for kids or elderly people too after all.
    As for upgrading your install: Ask Danny for example. His Tiger install fraked up his new iMac asfaik.

    @Squire Starsquid:
    Eh, what? Getting a new graphics card and more HDDs=new System? So if a iMac/Mac Pro user pops in more ram, a different/additional hdd or a better graphics card this becomes a new system too?

    Tiger.. Oh snap. I just asumed you would use the latest version. Sorry.

    Wow you can copy and paste on a Mac, great. Oh wait that was the iPhone.
    I’m just saying that the highest power on my PC is used for gaming. If you think Windows PCs are just used for gaming, this means only 5% of todays PC users are working on their machines?
    Btw: My lil’ PC? What are your lil’l PCs specs?
    ~sigh~ reasoning with MacFags is just like a discussion with Christians. and such…

    • http://chokochoko.wordpress.com/ Squire Starsquid

      @Hikky
      Yes I have an old OS version, so? At least I produce, what have you done lately? Oh right, play video game. Right, next!

      In any case you are outnumbered, your opinions don’t count anymore, so you can stop the biased trolling.

    • http://twitter.com/ephemeross tora

      Squire and hikky, you’re both being utterly stupid.

      For starters, PC’s are cheaper to build due to the massive amounts of hardware that gets manufactured for them, and companies can get really cheap basic parts to use as well.
      This makes them very accessible for shops and stores, and they can sell them to families who want to use them for basic things such as MS Word and Internet.
      I don’t need to tell you how many families there are in the world, and how many of them have kids who use MS Word and want to use the Internet; and who can afford £200 – £400 for a family PC.
      If you open up a Mac you’ll see how neatly designed and manufactured they are compared to a pre-built PC you buy from a company. This also adds to the price – design etc all takes time, money and resources compared to just screwing some hardware in and plugging some cables in then tie-wrapping them to the side.

      If you want decent hardware but can’t fit it yourself, you will be paying about the same, if not more, than what you would for a Mac – see Alienware etc.

      Like I said above; I’m probably getting a MacBook to use for my Multimedia Computing class – this is exactly the kind of reason people use a Mac – Multimedia Design, Video Editing, Wed Design etc.

      Yes people also use PC’s for that – I use mine for it right now, but with a PC comes the issue of upgrading hardware, making sure everything is compatible, repairs etc etc.
      What if the tablet you use at home doesn’t work with the system you use at work or in your office or whatever? etc. – You get the point.

      I could seriously sit here and list a ton more pro’s and con’s about both, give reasons why X is better than Y for this, but Y is better than X for that, but what’s the point? You’re both probably going to continue arguing anyway.
      http://img694.imageshack.us/img694/6923/promoinvitelearn.png

  • http://austrianotaku.com hikky

    @yonasu: Depends on what you need the workstation for. To stick with CAD workstation: A Workstation graphics card alone costs around 2000-3000€, so I wouldn’t call that cheap. The part about maintenance might be true, yes. For school such a Mini or a iMac might make sense. A Mac is the system I would buy for kids or elderly people too after all.
    As for upgrading your install: Ask Danny for example. His Tiger install fraked up his new iMac asfaik.

    @Squire Starsquid:
    Eh, what? Getting a new graphics card and more HDDs=new System? So if a iMac/Mac Pro user pops in more ram, a different/additional hdd or a better graphics card this becomes a new system too?

    Tiger.. Oh snap. I just asumed you would use the latest version. Sorry.

    Wow you can copy and paste on a Mac, great. Oh wait that was the iPhone.
    I’m just saying that the highest power on my PC is used for gaming. If you think Windows PCs are just used for gaming, this means only 5% of todays PC users are working on their machines?
    Btw: My lil’ PC? What are your lil’l PCs specs?
    ~sigh~ reasoning with MacFags is just like a discussion with Christians. and such…

    • http://chokochoko.wordpress.com/ Squire Starsquid

      @Hikky
      Yes I have an old OS version, so? At least I produce, what have you done lately? Oh right, play video game. Right, next!

      In any case you are outnumbered, your opinions don’t count anymore, so you can stop the biased trolling.

    • http://twitter.com/ephemeross tora

      Squire and hikky, you’re both being utterly stupid.

      For starters, PC’s are cheaper to build due to the massive amounts of hardware that gets manufactured for them, and companies can get really cheap basic parts to use as well.
      This makes them very accessible for shops and stores, and they can sell them to families who want to use them for basic things such as MS Word and Internet.
      I don’t need to tell you how many families there are in the world, and how many of them have kids who use MS Word and want to use the Internet; and who can afford £200 – £400 for a family PC.
      If you open up a Mac you’ll see how neatly designed and manufactured they are compared to a pre-built PC you buy from a company. This also adds to the price – design etc all takes time, money and resources compared to just screwing some hardware in and plugging some cables in then tie-wrapping them to the side.

      If you want decent hardware but can’t fit it yourself, you will be paying about the same, if not more, than what you would for a Mac – see Alienware etc.

      Like I said above; I’m probably getting a MacBook to use for my Multimedia Computing class – this is exactly the kind of reason people use a Mac – Multimedia Design, Video Editing, Wed Design etc.

      Yes people also use PC’s for that – I use mine for it right now, but with a PC comes the issue of upgrading hardware, making sure everything is compatible, repairs etc etc.
      What if the tablet you use at home doesn’t work with the system you use at work or in your office or whatever? etc. – You get the point.

      I could seriously sit here and list a ton more pro’s and con’s about both, give reasons why X is better than Y for this, but Y is better than X for that, but what’s the point? You’re both probably going to continue arguing anyway.
      http://img694.imageshack.us/img694/6923/promoinvitelearn.png

  • http://chokochoko.wordpress.com/ Squire Starsquid

    @tora
    And you are? Calling people you don’t know ‘utterly stupid’ in an opening sentence is a great starter. But I don’t blame you, I blame your parents. The crap you wrote is not worthy of a response, I recommend you buying a book on good social behaviour instead of spending it on a Macbook (which probably your parents pay for, you should thank them afterwards and ask them to teach you some good manners along with it).

    • http://twitter.com/ephemeross tora

      I’m someone who reads Yonasu’s blog and whom he has spoken to via Twitter a few times. Sup?

      You’re both arguing and acting like fan-boys, hence why I said you were acting stupid.
      I had email notifications of thread replies on and when I checked my mail earlier I had a ton of emails with your pathetic argument about PC vs Mac; which is why I responded.

      “Calling people you don’t know” Yet you don’t know me but presume I’m a child and can’t afford to pay for anything myself?
      FYI, I’m 21, and will be 22 later this year.

      By the way, you’re still responding to it.

      Anyway, arguing on the internet is stupid, so I’m turning off the email notifications and leaving you to argue pointlessly some more.

  • http://chokochoko.wordpress.com/ Squire Starsquid

    @tora
    And you are? Calling people you don’t know ‘utterly stupid’ in an opening sentence is a great starter. But I don’t blame you, I blame your parents. The crap you wrote is not worthy of a response, I recommend you buying a book on good social behaviour instead of spending it on a Macbook (which probably your parents pay for, you should thank them afterwards and ask them to teach you some good manners along with it).

    • http://twitter.com/ephemeross tora

      I’m someone who reads Yonasu’s blog and whom he has spoken to via Twitter a few times. Sup?

      You’re both arguing and acting like fan-boys, hence why I said you were acting stupid.
      I had email notifications of thread replies on and when I checked my mail earlier I had a ton of emails with your pathetic argument about PC vs Mac; which is why I responded.

      “Calling people you don’t know” Yet you don’t know me but presume I’m a child and can’t afford to pay for anything myself?
      FYI, I’m 21, and will be 22 later this year.

      By the way, you’re still responding to it.

      Anyway, arguing on the internet is stupid, so I’m turning off the email notifications and leaving you to argue pointlessly some more.

  • http://chokochoko.wordpress.com/ Squire Starsquid

    Then let the fanboys argue about it, if it bothers you, then don’t read it. Simple as that. And you don’t have to be a child to have something to be paid for. So you can leave the calling people ‘pathetic’ and ‘stupid’ to your mom when she calls you that for not having good social manners (and you could reply the same back for not getting enough weekly allowance). And I’m not responding to your written crap, I’m telling you how to behave so you can thank me later.

  • http://chokochoko.wordpress.com/ Squire Starsquid

    Then let the fanboys argue about it, if it bothers you, then don’t read it. Simple as that. And you don’t have to be a child to have something to be paid for. So you can leave the calling people ‘pathetic’ and ‘stupid’ to your mom when she calls you that for not having good social manners (and you could reply the same back for not getting enough weekly allowance). And I’m not responding to your written crap, I’m telling you how to behave so you can thank me later.